The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.– Albert Einstein
Friday, February 15, 2013
Anatomy Reading Reaction and Response 1
Follow this link and read the article posted there. In the space below, leave a comment. You should react to the article AS WELL AS your classmates comments. Feel free to pose questions that will invigorate the conversation.
Surprisingly I like this article because it shows all the different jobs that you can have when you are a forensic person, but I think that this article could have used a real life example.... I have a question: why do you think that the people that work on the body farm make it sort of hard to find the donated bodies because it says that they also put them in cement.
Milan Anderson: I remember reading an article like this last year! I think they make the acdavers harder to find is to make it like a puzzle. TV shows dont show how hard this field of work actually is and the instructors wants their students to know that. I think it's cool how there are three different subdivisions to this job, but they all have to work together to solve the crime and bring people to justice. Also, did anyone else catch the part about extracting the DNA from the swab? Can you say, BANANA LAB?
Yes Milan I did! I totally thought about the banana lab! The article was actually interesting! There is so much information the crime scene investigator has to look out for. Day talks about how anything can be evidence so they have to look harder to find more important evidence. Pictures also help for the before they started looking. This article made me understand parts of CSI and NCIS a little bit more! Caitlin Florentino
i also found this article really interesting because of all the steps the investigators have to take and all the minor details that they must pay close attention to.like caitlen said, all things can be evidence so the investigators have to pay close attention and be gentle with all evidence in the crime scene. I thought of the Banana lab when the investigator was talking about getting DNA from the swab used to test when investigating the bodies. -Eric
This article was interesting because it shows the reality of forensic jobs instead of how TV portrays them where everything seems more advanced with technology and crimes are solved faster. The extraction and use of DNA made me think about how helpful it can be, for example when people are sentenced to or even released from jail or death row because of DNA findings. And I think that they make some bodies more difficult to find on the farm for students to gain experience and to see the differences bodies have when decomposed in certain areas. - Micayla G
Earlier this year we read something about the Body Farm and I was a little freaked out but, as this article shows, it helps Crime scene investigators help identify the people and solve cases. Like Milan said, extracting DNA reminded me of the banana lab. Micayla talked about how the TV shows regarding forensics make the cases be solved quicker and less complicated. I found this article to be insightful so I was wondering why crime scene shows don't show the complete reality of the job? -Kayla Higgins
I had already liked the idea of forensic anthropology after watching the show "Bones", but after reading this article, I learned about most of the information I already knew about, if not more. Like Milan, I also thought about the Banana Lab we did in Chemistry and how we had to extract the DNA i.e the coolest thing ever. I also agree with Micayla about how the use of DNA, helping those on death row, because it can definitely be used to help those falsely accused of a crime. I think anthropology is almost taken for granted because it is so underrated and you never really hear much about it. What do you guys think? -Yetunde
Well one to answer yetundes question i dont think anthropology is underrated i just think its not wellknown as some other jobs like being a cop. Like i bet people like micayla watch the tv shows and still have a belief that the jobs cool. Two the article just verified that i will not be a doctor or in CSI field because of the amount of dead bodies . How did the article affect everyone else? -jade rivera
The amount of resources available today for crime scene investigations is unreal. It makes me wonder how crimes were solved a hundred years ago. To build off what Eric said regarding the minor details investigators must pay attention to, we're so high-tech today that paying attention to details is no longer an issue; we have equipment to help. I immediately thought of the book "Stiff" when cadavers were mentioned. Apparently cadavers are not strictly for dissecting purposes because investigators use them to simulate a real crime scene. Cadavers are becoming more useful to society everyday. Forensics fascinates me because it combines so many subjects to form one field. Would anyone consider a career in forensics after reading this? -Eamonn
To answer Jade's question, I would say that the article made me understand the job of crime scene investigators even more. I already had a general understanding of what they did from watching various cop shows and reading previous articles about the Crime Scene Investigation field. However, my understanding has been a bit warped because, like Micayla said, most cop shows do not show what what the CSI field truly entails. This article cleared my misconceptions about CSI that are fueled by TV shows like CSI: Crime Scene Investigation. I have always thought that forensics would be an interesting career option, but, like Jade, this article made me realize that working in forensics entails much more than TV shows reveal.
Attention to details back then are just as important as the attention today. The technology only helps to improve our understanding of the evidence. I see Eamonn's point but without good attention a person could mess up. This article has affected me but allowing me to see a work field that I have an interest of pursuing when I get older. Would any of you donate your body to the Body Farm? -John Esposito
I thought this article was really interesting because of learning about what the scientists do, because I never really thought about it as a career choice. I thought about it for a little while and decided that working with dead bodies would disturb me to much. And to answer John's question I think I will donate my body to the Body Farm or a similar organization, because it won't affect me because I'll already be dead and it will help advance science. -Jerry Manning
I thought this article was very interesting for two reasons. One reason is the way scientists look at cadavers to determine the gender, height also the cause of death of the body. The second reason is that it reveals that the process of collecting DNA is not as easy as it seems in tv shows like CSI. I also agree with John that even though with all the technology of today and the new discoveries and changes in the science world you still have to pay close attention to detail, to not make mistakes and possibly miss an important detail. -Anwar
I liked this article, I never thought of CSI as being a boring job until they brought it up here. I also agree with Anwar about the process of collecting DNA. I thought it was easy you see blood you take it. I never would have taken where the crime was committed into consideration. (silly me). I also liked how in the beginning the author talked about finding bodies as if it were like finding a penny on the street. sometimes you find one and sometimes you may find a couple. I also agree with john about the attention to detail. I always seem to over look the challenges many careers face. -Herbie
I found this article fascinating. It was very relevant to me because I am interested in both CSI and the FBI. It was interesting to see just how much goes in to investigations and how hard it can be to find DNA to track the criminal. When they referenced the Body Farm, I already knew a lot about it from "Stiff" as well as from my uncle who studied there. relating back to John's question, I do not think I would donate my body just because there are so many other bizzare things that can be done to your body for science that I would not feel comfortable with it. All of those strange things are in "Stiff" and I suggest you read it if you are at all interested in things like this! -Brooke
I found this article extremely interesting. I liked it because it shows how it sometimes can be hard to find evidence. I also have the same opinion as Jerry that I have thought about this as a career choice, but I do not think that I could actually work with dead bodies. Like Brooke, I also related this "Stiff" because it also talks about what bodies are used for after someone dies. Back to John's question, I am not sure what if I would donate my body. I know that after I die I have no need for my body anymore, but it does seem weird what would be done with my body. -Caity
I think that this article is very interesting because it shows that it takes a long process to actually solve a crime. I have thought about this career, but I hate puzzles so I think I would give up before a case is solved because many of them take years. To answer John's question, I don't think that I would donate my body to science because I wouldn't know what exactly they were going to do with it. Because many people believe that CSI is only what they see on TV, do you think that people might change their minds about being a crime scene investigator after learning about all the real facts?- Kathryn
I thought that this article was very interesting because it proves that being a scientists comes with a lot of researching and to me its pretty cool on how they gather the information to solve the crime. I would never picture myself doing anything like this especially when it comes to dead bodies. I find it interesting on how human DNA is perfectly identical and how they can can find the difference by 0.2 percent, so it can still identify just one person and that it could be from a body that had been laying there for days so im still trying to put it in my head on what machines they use to find this information. back to johns question i don't think that i would want to donate my body because i think it would be better if i just stayed in one piece, but in overall this would be a good career choice. -Danny
I learned something new from this article. I learned that a person can always be identifiable even if they are just skull and bones. I wondered how they can determine a person's skin color based off their bones. My future is quite obscured to me. I was thinking about going into Criminal Justice, and this article has made me want to give forensics a look. An answer to John's question would be a no. I don't feel comfortable with having my body dissected on. -Mark
I thought this article was very interesting to read, because it seems sort of fun digging up bodies from the ground.To answer Eamonn qustion yes, this could be a possible career for me now, because the investigators need keen sense of sight to pick out the small details. They mention CSI and Bones which have all the flashy lab equipment, but some shows like NCIS don't have the flashy equipment, they have "basic computers" like they do. Alto to answer Johns question: I would donate my body to the body farm because it is helping the students learn and it is for science. Well I'm an organ donor, so when I die my organs might help some one live, or it could help scientists now more about the body.- Peter
I thought this article was very interesting because it talked about dead bodies. My career choice is Funeral Service and Mortuary Science. This article just made me want to actually go to college for this career even more. I think dead bodies are cool because you can always identify a dead person through their bones or Skull. When the article mentioned the Body Farm i got excited because some day i want to go to one. To answer John's question i would donate my body to science. I feel like it would be of better use for science then sitting in the ground at a graveyard. -Courtney
Shalyse: I agree with Malika because I thought the article was interesting because 98.8% of people have the same fingertip print except .2%. Then I thought it was interesting that bodies decompose in the summer faster. To answer Adrianna's question they do this because the people need to be trained in their field so if it is harder then they will do a better job.
(I hope this works!!!) I find it fascinating how you can combine all sciences for one particular thing that has nothing to do with science. To shalyse's last comment about how bodies decompose faster in the summer, it makes sense that that would be the case. It is less likely for a body to decompose in the winter quickly since there are not that many things that could affect the rate at which it decomposes (for example bugs, fungi, other animals). But on the contrary, in the summer there are many things that could speed up decomposition. -Gelonnie
Surprisingly I like this article because it shows all the different jobs that you can have when you are a forensic person, but I think that this article could have used a real life example.... I have a question: why do you think that the people that work on the body farm make it sort of hard to find the donated bodies because it says that they also put them in cement.
ReplyDeleteMilan Anderson:
ReplyDeleteI remember reading an article like this last year! I think they make the acdavers harder to find is to make it like a puzzle. TV shows dont show how hard this field of work actually is and the instructors wants their students to know that. I think it's cool how there are three different subdivisions to this job, but they all have to work together to solve the crime and bring people to justice. Also, did anyone else catch the part about extracting the DNA from the swab? Can you say, BANANA LAB?
* I think the reason they make cadavers harder to find is to make it more like a puzzle. * Sorry, i clearly cannot spell.
DeleteMilan Anderson
I think they make it harder to find is to see if the body can decompose in different scenarios like how they find on a crime scene.
ReplyDeleteYes Milan I did! I totally thought about the banana lab! The article was actually interesting! There is so much information the crime scene investigator has to look out for. Day talks about how anything can be evidence so they have to look harder to find more important evidence. Pictures also help for the before they started looking. This article made me understand parts of CSI and NCIS a little bit more!
ReplyDeleteCaitlin Florentino
i also found this article really interesting because of all the steps the investigators have to take and all the minor details that they must pay close attention to.like caitlen said, all things can be evidence so the investigators have to pay close attention and be gentle with all evidence in the crime scene. I thought of the Banana lab when the investigator was talking about getting DNA from the swab used to test when investigating the bodies. -Eric
ReplyDeleteThis article was interesting because it shows the reality of forensic jobs instead of how TV portrays them where everything seems more advanced with technology and crimes are solved faster. The extraction and use of DNA made me think about how helpful it can be, for example when people are sentenced to or even released from jail or death row because of DNA findings. And I think that they make some bodies more difficult to find on the farm for students to gain experience and to see the differences bodies have when decomposed in certain areas. - Micayla G
ReplyDeleteEarlier this year we read something about the Body Farm and I was a little freaked out but, as this article shows, it helps Crime scene investigators help identify the people and solve cases. Like Milan said, extracting DNA reminded me of the banana lab. Micayla talked about how the TV shows regarding forensics make the cases be solved quicker and less complicated. I found this article to be insightful so I was wondering why crime scene shows don't show the complete reality of the job?
ReplyDelete-Kayla Higgins
I had already liked the idea of forensic anthropology after watching the show "Bones", but after reading this article, I learned about most of the information I already knew about, if not more. Like Milan, I also thought about the Banana Lab we did in Chemistry and how we had to extract the DNA i.e the coolest thing ever. I also agree with Micayla about how the use of DNA, helping those on death row, because it can definitely be used to help those falsely accused of a crime. I think anthropology is almost taken for granted because it is so underrated and you never really hear much about it. What do you guys think?
ReplyDelete-Yetunde
Well one to answer yetundes question i dont think anthropology is underrated i just think its not wellknown as some other jobs like being a cop. Like i bet people like micayla watch the tv shows and still have a belief that the jobs cool. Two the article just verified that i will not be a doctor or in CSI field because of the amount of dead bodies . How did the article affect everyone else? -jade rivera
ReplyDeleteThe amount of resources available today for crime scene investigations is unreal. It makes me wonder how crimes were solved a hundred years ago. To build off what Eric said regarding the minor details investigators must pay attention to, we're so high-tech today that paying attention to details is no longer an issue; we have equipment to help. I immediately thought of the book "Stiff" when cadavers were mentioned. Apparently cadavers are not strictly for dissecting purposes because investigators use them to simulate a real crime scene. Cadavers are becoming more useful to society everyday. Forensics fascinates me because it combines so many subjects to form one field. Would anyone consider a career in forensics after reading this? -Eamonn
ReplyDeleteTo answer Jade's question, I would say that the article made me understand the job of crime scene investigators even more. I already had a general understanding of what they did from watching various cop shows and reading previous articles about the Crime Scene Investigation field. However, my understanding has been a bit warped because, like Micayla said, most cop shows do not show what what the CSI field truly entails. This article cleared my misconceptions about CSI that are fueled by TV shows like CSI: Crime Scene Investigation. I have always thought that forensics would be an interesting career option, but, like Jade, this article made me realize that working in forensics entails much more than TV shows reveal.
ReplyDeleteAttention to details back then are just as important as the attention today. The technology only helps to improve our understanding of the evidence. I see Eamonn's point but without good attention a person could mess up. This article has affected me but allowing me to see a work field that I have an interest of pursuing when I get older. Would any of you donate your body to the Body Farm?
ReplyDelete-John Esposito
I thought this article was really interesting because of learning about what the scientists do, because I never really thought about it as a career choice. I thought about it for a little while and decided that working with dead bodies would disturb me to much. And to answer John's question I think I will donate my body to the Body Farm or a similar organization, because it won't affect me because I'll already be dead and it will help advance science.
ReplyDelete-Jerry Manning
I thought this article was very interesting for two reasons. One reason is the way scientists look at cadavers to determine the gender, height also the cause of death of the body. The second reason is that it reveals that the process of collecting DNA is not as easy as it seems in tv shows like CSI. I also agree with John that even though with all the technology of today and the new discoveries and changes in the science world you still have to pay close attention to detail, to not make mistakes and possibly miss an important detail.
Delete-Anwar
I liked this article, I never thought of CSI as being a boring job until they brought it up here. I also agree with Anwar about the process of collecting DNA. I thought it was easy you see blood you take it. I never would have taken where the crime was committed into consideration. (silly me). I also liked how in the beginning the author talked about finding bodies as if it were like finding a penny on the street. sometimes you find one and sometimes you may find a couple. I also agree with john about the attention to detail. I always seem to over look the challenges many careers face.
ReplyDelete-Herbie
I found this article fascinating. It was very relevant to me because I am interested in both CSI and the FBI. It was interesting to see just how much goes in to investigations and how hard it can be to find DNA to track the criminal. When they referenced the Body Farm, I already knew a lot about it from "Stiff" as well as from my uncle who studied there. relating back to John's question, I do not think I would donate my body just because there are so many other bizzare things that can be done to your body for science that I would not feel comfortable with it. All of those strange things are in "Stiff" and I suggest you read it if you are at all interested in things like this!
ReplyDelete-Brooke
I found this article extremely interesting. I liked it because it shows how it sometimes can be hard to find evidence. I also have the same opinion as Jerry that I have thought about this as a career choice, but I do not think that I could actually work with dead bodies. Like Brooke, I also related this "Stiff" because it also talks about what bodies are used for after someone dies. Back to John's question, I am not sure what if I would donate my body. I know that after I die I have no need for my body anymore, but it does seem weird what would be done with my body.
ReplyDelete-Caity
I think that this article is very interesting because it shows that it takes a long process to actually solve a crime. I have thought about this career, but I hate puzzles so I think I would give up before a case is solved because many of them take years. To answer John's question, I don't think that I would donate my body to science because I wouldn't know what exactly they were going to do with it. Because many people believe that CSI is only what they see on TV, do you think that people might change their minds about being a crime scene investigator after learning about all the real facts?- Kathryn
ReplyDeleteI thought that this article was very interesting because it proves that being a scientists comes with a lot of researching and to me its pretty cool on how they gather the information to solve the crime. I would never picture myself doing anything like this especially when it comes to dead bodies. I find it interesting on how human DNA is perfectly identical and how they can can find the difference by 0.2 percent, so it can still identify just one person and that it could be from a body that had been laying there for days so im still trying to put it in my head on what machines they use to find this information. back to johns question i don't think that i would want to donate my body because i think it would be better if i just stayed in one piece, but in overall this would be a good career choice.
ReplyDelete-Danny
I learned something new from this article. I learned that a person can always be identifiable even if they are just skull and bones. I wondered how they can determine a person's skin color based off their bones.
ReplyDeleteMy future is quite obscured to me. I was thinking about going into Criminal Justice, and this article has made me want to give forensics a look.
An answer to John's question would be a no. I don't feel comfortable with having my body dissected on.
-Mark
I thought this article was very interesting to read, because it seems sort of fun digging up bodies from the ground.To answer Eamonn qustion yes, this could be a possible career for me now, because the investigators need keen sense of sight to pick out the small details. They mention CSI and Bones which have all the flashy lab equipment, but some shows like NCIS don't have the flashy equipment, they have "basic computers" like they do. Alto to answer Johns question: I would donate my body to the body farm because it is helping the students learn and it is for science. Well I'm an organ donor, so when I die my organs might help some one live, or it could help scientists now more about the body.- Peter
ReplyDeleteI thought this article was very interesting because it talked about dead bodies. My career choice is Funeral Service and Mortuary Science. This article just made me want to actually go to college for this career even more. I think dead bodies are cool because you can always identify a dead person through their bones or Skull. When the article mentioned the Body Farm i got excited because some day i want to go to one. To answer John's question i would donate my body to science. I feel like it would be of better use for science then sitting in the ground at a graveyard.
ReplyDelete-Courtney
Shalyse: I agree with Malika because I thought the article was interesting because 98.8% of people have the same fingertip print except .2%. Then I thought it was interesting that bodies decompose in the summer faster. To answer Adrianna's question they do this because the people need to be trained in their field so if it is harder then they will do a better job.
ReplyDeleteGreat comments everyone! I really enjoyed reading your input. Keep it up!
ReplyDelete(I hope this works!!!) I find it fascinating how you can combine all sciences for one particular thing that has nothing to do with science. To shalyse's last comment about how bodies decompose faster in the summer, it makes sense that that would be the case. It is less likely for a body to decompose in the winter quickly since there are not that many things that could affect the rate at which it decomposes (for example bugs, fungi, other animals). But on the contrary, in the summer there are many things that could speed up decomposition. -Gelonnie
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